Dharna was Gen Shuja Pasha's brainchild, alleges Javed Hashmi

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Dharna was Gen Shuja Pasha's brainchild, alleges Javed Hashmi

Dawn.com Published April 6, 2015

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KARACHI: Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf’s (PTI) former president Javed Hashmi on Sunday said that former ISI chief Gen Shuja Pasha was the brain behind PTI’s 126-day protest in Islamabad.

Talking on DawnNews’ show ‘Doosra Rukh,’ the disgruntled PTI leader said workers had been instructed to drag Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif out of his official residence, while Tahirul Qadri’s workers had been asked to ransack the Parliament with support from PTI.

“Gen Pasha had vowed to oust Nawaz Sharif, Khawaja Asif and Chaudhry Nisar at all costs,” said Hashmi.

He went on to say that Imran Khan had been in regular contact with Gen Kayani and Gen Pasha during the protest movement.

“It was only after I had joined the PTI that I realized the mess I had gotten into,” said the former PTI president.

Suspended by his party in September 2014 following allegations against Imran Khan, Hashmi had announced his resignation from PTI's presidency and its membership soon afterwards. At that time Hashmi had said he could no longer continue being member of a party 'conspiring' to dismantle democracy in Pakistan.

Talking about the situation in Karachi, Hashmi said MQM will have to eliminate violent elements from among its ranks for a sustainable political future.

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Muhammad

Apr 06, 2015 12:56am

Hmm... if all these generals really were involved they would've succeeded in ousting the government. I call foul!

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Patriotism

Apr 06, 2015 12:58am

"Workers had been instructed to drag Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif out of his official residence..." Even MQM doesn't do stuff like that! XD This is getting hilarious by day.

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Mord786

Apr 06, 2015 01:00am

And it took you this long to lift the veil! Come on, please tell the truth for the real reason for leaving.

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Saracen

Apr 06, 2015 01:01am

OK. Lets grant that you realized you made a blunder by joining PTI, it took you three years to quit and that also two weeks into the dharna? And why are you naming 'retired' (no military authority) general Pasha after 8 months? Failed attempt at being relevant.

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Kamal Pasha.

Apr 06, 2015 01:27am

Why is Mr.Hashmi opening his mouth now? He is out of politics and these tricks have becomes absolute to gain sympathy from the crowd. He should go into hibernation which will be good for all of us.

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S rehman

Apr 06, 2015 01:28am

And of course pml N is so organised ,and independent,so clean and uncorrupt...

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JD7548

Apr 06, 2015 01:31am

And you ended up out of NA, with nowhere to go in politics.

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KYS...

Apr 06, 2015 01:36am

why were you part of it initially ..????????????

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sky...

Apr 06, 2015 01:37am

So why were you initially part of it...??????????

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syed hanif

Apr 06, 2015 01:45am

Too little too late.

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Ahsan Gul

Apr 06, 2015 01:50am

Why Mr.Hashmi did not reveal this information earlier? Was he intending to use as trump card? He should have kept quite to be honorable. He himself made his character unbelievable and now he has lost total credibility. Do our politicians believe in sel respect? Our citizens are getting to the point to decipher true and lies and that day is not far when they will not listen them anymore. Bunch of our politicians are self centered and thrive only because they belong to certain cast or have ties with certain religious groups.

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Blithe

Apr 06, 2015 01:55am

History would remember Hashmi as a true patriot .

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Mirza Asad Baig

Apr 06, 2015 01:56am

Both generals had retired, so I don't see any logic in this revelation.

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salman

Apr 06, 2015 01:56am

Bechara hashmi...trying to make himself relevant again.

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Usman Masood

Apr 06, 2015 02:00am

Gen Kayani and Gen Pasha could not oust the PPP government in their own time. How could they be conspiring now to remove the PM when they do not have any position and current COAS is an opinionated person of his own mind?

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Junaid

Apr 06, 2015 02:07am

keep blaming ik for everything but he is our hope for a mature and transparent legal system

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Haider Rehman

Apr 06, 2015 02:10am

"workers had been instructed to drag Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif out of his official residence" As if someone is that stupid!

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Awais Ali

Apr 06, 2015 02:11am

He alleged multiple time in past but could not provide a single proof of it. Secondly general pasha was retired in 2011 how he could arrange all in 2014-15? It's just to remain in news for this man

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rizwan

Apr 06, 2015 02:12am

then it was a great idea

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Amir Mahmood

Apr 06, 2015 02:20am

Truth delayed is Truth denied ( is not meaningful)

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SGKhan_Karachi

Apr 06, 2015 02:23am

Hmm... you've started to bore me now

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Khalid

Apr 06, 2015 02:24am

Govt should establish immediately JIT to investigate this. PTI must ask govt to establish JIT. Now it is time get some clarity and if the investigation establish that Pasha and Kinyani did this, then put both along with Imran behind the bar. Law must be equal to all.

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Silent Conqueror

Apr 06, 2015 02:29am

Wow! So General Kayani who turned a blind eye to the election rigging by Nawaz Sharif when he was Chief of Army Staff in May 2013 tried to oust Nawaz when he got retired? Seriously? When you make up a story at least make it good

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James

Apr 06, 2015 02:36am

Our politicians deserve the fate they get. Mr Hashmi should make his tax returns for the last 30 years public and we will get to know whether he has the moral courage to reveal all and show his integrity - how they live, what they earn and what taxes they pay will show how honest they are.

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omo

Apr 06, 2015 02:39am

if ur allegations r true u should have disclosed these things earlier soon after u have realised the true face of pti. but after such a long stint with party and that at crucial position ' now such revelations only cast doubt on ur own integrity.

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Apr 06, 2015 02:40am

I doubt if Hashmi Sahab can ever regain his credibility. Why speak now?

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Bhatti

Apr 06, 2015 02:40am

Brave man who always speaks the truth!

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Mangal

Apr 06, 2015 02:54am

O Mr. Hashmi! I wish you had said all that when you were with PTI enjoying being the president and the 'baghi' of our youth. I wish you hadn't lost all your credibility. Even being a stanch support of Imran Khan, I would've listened to you and would've condemned IK in harshest of words. Even today if these words were uttered by someone more credible than you, I would've sent 'la'nat' on IK and would have distanced myself from politics as I've always done before.

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Waqas

Apr 06, 2015 03:05am

Ok so? And? It continues... Finally it's America behind this Dharna too? We are a homeland of so innocent people who only drives on direction of external factors! But for how long more :(((

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Apr 06, 2015 03:17am

sorry but you lost your credibility

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Shuaib Bhat

Apr 06, 2015 03:33am

Furthermore I'd like to say I have no proof that Shuja Pasha has done anything.

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Syed A. Kazmi

Apr 06, 2015 03:40am

I am not a PTI member or lover. But unfortunately what your actions tell a common man is that You were a mole in PTI by PML-N. Please have mercy on yourself & Pakistan do not sow more seeds of confusion & hatered. Admit your mistakes have finished your political career, you are no more relevant in any way.

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Apr 06, 2015 03:50am

Mr Hashmi should stop spitting venom and wait for his chance to join PMLN again . He was never fully a PTI man when he was with them. This came out involuntarily from him on few occossions , one such Occassion was in the Parliament it self when he muttered that NS was his leader and would remain so for ever. Since my comments goes in PTI favour the readers would assume I could be one of many PTI troll. I am not . I am thousands of miles away observing the melodramatic politicals of so called seasoned politicians.

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Imran A.

Apr 06, 2015 03:51am

We are all entitled to advise. I wonder who advised you to leave PTI, whoever that was, left you in no man's land. We love Imran Khan more than ever before. I'm glad you left PTI because we don't need pessimists.

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Atta

Apr 06, 2015 03:56am

Yeah....and you want us to believe you.

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#Retirement

Apr 06, 2015 03:58am

Mr. Hashmi, these allegations only do disservice to you. You were a great leader, let history remember that, instead of making these petty statements.

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#Easy

Apr 06, 2015 04:00am

O baba jee bass karo

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khan

Apr 06, 2015 04:00am

Hashmi sahib you are and you were a loyal member of nawaz sharif. When will you politician start thinking about the country and not about filling your own pockets.

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pathanoo

Apr 06, 2015 04:02am

I believe Javed Hasmi.

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saqib ghumman

Apr 06, 2015 04:03am

Our politician dont even know which party to join till they join and see, how ignorant unfortunately??

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Arshad Ahmed Patel, West Chester,Ohio, USA.

Apr 06, 2015 04:07am

Javed Hashmi has come out of deep sleep after six months with new stories against IK and PTI .

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Khan-Haqiqi

Apr 06, 2015 04:09am

Nothing new we know the story behind NAYA Pakistan , the official support PTI is receiving in Karachi speaks of the plan

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khan

Apr 06, 2015 04:13am

When will khaki's stop interfering in our politics. If IK had removed gov with the help of Shuja, after next elections nawaz would have been on the streets conspiring with a new Zia

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Khurram

Apr 06, 2015 04:22am

He's right. PTI has become a mess with no clear agenda (back into assemblies after calling it a den of thieves), accepting everyone into its folds who has a personal vote bank irrespective of one's corrupt past, and nothing material done in KPK when compared with its big promises.

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Zia

Apr 06, 2015 04:26am

Mr Hashmi you are absolutely correct, every one remember the umpire's finger.PML-N had played a very positive role averting disaster.

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Javid

Apr 06, 2015 04:28am

Look who is talking! Why didn't U reveled it when you were part of the Dharna! C'mon we know you will feel pretty bad after watching all the lawmakers in parliament except U.

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Kiran

Apr 06, 2015 04:35am

Even if that was the case, he was President of the party and should keep his word. PTI's dharna was against Nawaz Shareef Govt... So what's the problem? Its just inflammatory words by this guy to get brownie points for a finished career. Shameful!

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Mohammad Farooq

Apr 06, 2015 04:38am

He talks nothing but rubbish.

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DR. SHAZIA

Apr 06, 2015 04:47am

Interesting view by Javed Hashmi, who many of us have a high regard for. Yet shouldn't he express these sentiments about the present leadership as well? "MQM will have to eliminate violent elements from among its ranks for a sustainable political future."

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k maliks

Apr 06, 2015 04:51am

It is due to such interference in political and government matters, the nation has been dragged into chaos and socioeconomic failure. Agencies headed by such people with alternative motives had redirected priorities elsewhere causing repeated intelligence failures, incompetency and addressing of internal and external threats.

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concerned

Apr 06, 2015 04:53am

Why do our leaders behave in a similar pattern. .. do they get their political training from the same university... you rejoined PTI and then to be thrown out. ... what made you rejoin the same mess?

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Amit

Apr 06, 2015 05:09am

Here is you real enemy, Gen Pasha. If you really love your country and the democracy come out against these state actors and expose then so they will never hijack the government again.

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Rashid

Apr 06, 2015 05:10am

Your actions and your claims are contradictory. If PTI was such a mess, then why did you not leave earlier ? Mr Hashmi, you are now obsolete.

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Apr 06, 2015 05:11am

And on whose instructions Gen Pasha was following?

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SKB

Apr 06, 2015 05:12am

This is sad, if there is any credibility to this statement, to create a chaos for democratically elected PM and the Government. Pakistan as a Nation should be aware of such wrong doing.

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Ahmad

Apr 06, 2015 05:34am

On what logic one would be believe Hashmi ? Unfortunately, he has lost all his reputation :(

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Naveed Ahmad

Apr 06, 2015 05:35am

fake cry of a politician who cannot remain faithful with any party.

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Iqbal khan

Apr 06, 2015 05:40am

Sir the kind of investigative skills you have I am sure you will soon come out with the information how Nawaz sharif made fortune in such a short time.

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maher ihsan

Apr 06, 2015 05:47am

it does not matter anymore you loose your respect big time and IK is gaining every day.

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Mustafa

Apr 06, 2015 06:01am

General Pasha had long since retired at the time of the Dharnas. As a private citizen he is entitled to participate in all political activities. Makhdoom sahib was a Nawaz Sharif mole planted in PTI, his words can't be trusted.

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Tahir Amjad

Apr 06, 2015 06:01am

@Mirza Asad Baig .well its necessary to be revealed, for the sake of history/record.welldone Hashimi sahb.

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Tahir Amjad

Apr 06, 2015 06:04am

@salman .He is a great patriot, true democrat and great political worker.

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Tahir Amjad

Apr 06, 2015 06:07am

@Usman Masood they could not oust ppp Govt. Because N'S did not play as tool against democracy in their hands. While Khan jumped in to their lap to grab the opportunity to become PM by short cut.

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Sab Se Pehle Pakistan

Apr 06, 2015 06:09am

Thank you for exposing PTIs politics Hashmi Sahab

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Siraj Ahmed

Apr 06, 2015 06:09am

Thee truth has come out , Finally. Our establishment does not want Democracy too florish in Pakistan.

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Tahir Amjad

Apr 06, 2015 06:10am

@Junaid .He could be a great hope for a better pakistan if he shows political maturity by learning from his mistakes.

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Tahir Amjad

Apr 06, 2015 06:14am

@rizwan .alas to ur great disappointment it did not worked.

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Syed

Apr 06, 2015 06:27am

Sore looser

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Canada

Apr 06, 2015 06:28am

A mans credibility is worth a lot. It after all it makes one "credible". Unfortunately this man lost all credibility a long time ago and borders insanity. "Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools speak because they have to say something." PLATO

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Waseem

Apr 06, 2015 06:30am

You have no credibility to claim anything.

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loyal citizen

Apr 06, 2015 06:37am

Gone are the days when people could be fooled easily. This statement does not have its base.

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Aqeel Raza

Apr 06, 2015 06:46am

I fell sorry for this guy.

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Rangeela

Apr 06, 2015 07:03am

@Blithe really!!

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just_someone

Apr 06, 2015 07:24am

A 'has-been' becoming a 'never-was'

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Golden Owl

Apr 06, 2015 07:29am

This man has no credibility left, he should refrain from any political activity

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Muzaffar Oklahoma

Apr 06, 2015 07:38am

Javed Hashmi has completely lost it!

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Ravan singh

Apr 06, 2015 08:24am

@Muhammad that was the plan, until Peshawar happened and scuttled the fauji plans. Sad no?

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israr

Apr 06, 2015 08:27am

And you were a part of this dharna inspite of being aware of it's 'conspiracy' nature.You are dragging your self man.

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ali ahmed

Apr 06, 2015 08:53am

'Letting the cat out of the bag.' by Hashmi...the same bag and cat .. Imran Khan is using to conquer Karachi with the help of Tv channels

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Riaz

Apr 06, 2015 08:58am

Will IK or PTI spokesperson refute the charges?

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mohammed

Apr 06, 2015 09:00am

mr Hashmi you are old enough to talk like a child

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Kanwarch

Apr 06, 2015 09:10am

This man needs to see a psychiatrist sooner than later as he is increasingly becoming deluded. He has done nothing in his life for the country apart from so called promoting democracy (getting her daughter in politics) and should go away and leave us alone

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Honey Badger

Apr 06, 2015 09:14am

Why Dont you please take your shop somewhere else Mr. Javed Hashmi, you are a failed politician as usual.

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Satyameva Jayate

Apr 06, 2015 09:23am

Javed Hashmi is more honest than other living politicians.

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May I

Apr 06, 2015 09:25am

Great timing though! You would have said same stuff after you left dharna but you didn't.

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MAD

Apr 06, 2015 09:29am

Hashmis actions and lateness of these revelations mean that they no longer have credibility. Some will say neither do Iks allegations regarding electoral rigging but being an eyewitness to those in Karachi i have to agree with the claims made by PTi regarding election 2013.

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Mirza

Apr 06, 2015 09:41am

Hashmi is one of the most patriotic politician in Pakistan. At least he is taking care of his own family not leaving it to be raised on other people's money. Has anybody ever heard that a couple has five kids and they have given away their custody to the rich ex-spouses and want to lead our kids? Go get a real job for an honest living and raise your family on your money for a change.

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ashok kumar lal

Apr 06, 2015 09:41am

The truth has come out.Without support of khaki Imran could not have done anything.

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Saj king khan

Apr 06, 2015 09:43am

Grapes are sour!!!

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Hisham

Apr 06, 2015 09:49am

An open secret.

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hyat

Apr 06, 2015 09:51am

if this is real then mqm would be in governement next time if she keep getting NROs from all government.

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Danish

Apr 06, 2015 09:51am

Wrong Number

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Mansoor Sajid

Apr 06, 2015 09:53am

A failed politician trying desperately to return to the field at any cost.

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Khan

Apr 06, 2015 09:56am

This revelation further fortifies the notion that Ik is in Karachi on another mission given by the agencies . IK endeavors are here to malign MQM as much as possible through his media trial of MQM and creating another failed and fallop drama. IK and his candidate Imran Ismael are here to carry on the work of agencies from the political front and not to contest election as they know they will never will this election.

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M. Mushtaq Ahmed

Apr 06, 2015 09:59am

Please fine a hole for this guy to live in. Typical Pakistani politician making comments to stay relevant.

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waseem haider

Apr 06, 2015 10:03am

he is mad without NA seat

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Zak

Apr 06, 2015 10:03am

Fade with grace, once and for all.

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Sarddar

Apr 06, 2015 10:06am

I am sorry for this Old Guy

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responsible

Apr 06, 2015 10:09am

How can it possible? It is important to note the timing of interview from the interviewer.

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rana1

Apr 06, 2015 10:10am

@Haider Rehman ......looking at the dharna crowd,they were all stupid and ready to bring disorder.

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Apr 06, 2015 10:10am

The protest movement started in August 2014. Gen Kayani retired in November 2013 and Gen Pasha in March 2012. Why was Imran Khan in contact with them during the protest movement then? Doesn't make sense unless both the retired Generals were powerful enough to influence the establishment even after their retirement. Highly doubt it.

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Apr 06, 2015 10:12am

IK was surely dancing on someone's tunes. Where is the father of people of Pakistan (TAQ) these days? Isnt Pakistan suffering from same issues these days which TAQ had addressed? Revolutions are brought by real common people. I dont know how come Tareens, Shah Mahmoods, etc are not from status quo. The establishment wanted a weak/dummy PM. IK did it for them and right now they dont need IK. It was Pasha's personal grudge with PM and his some men. IK is a gooner now.

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asgher

Apr 06, 2015 10:17am

What is the gain in disclosing this information now?? what is the gain from speaking ill about the agencies Months after the Protest has been finished??? Imagine if agencies come after him and open his cases what will be his plan of action? No party will take a loud speaker like him then.. He was the most humiliated man in those dharna days.. Now he should keep quiet and enjoy retired life instead of baseless allegations... siasat bohot gandi cheez hai!

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Abdulla Hussain

Apr 06, 2015 10:37am

Mr. Hashmi this is a bad practice of going public with party strategy & planing. Although you have on your own accord left the party but guarding its secret was essential. This way you have put a question on yourself, why should someone ever trust you again. It is good that you were never provided an opportunity to hold high office otherwise the estate secret would have been compromised.

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M Rafique

Apr 06, 2015 10:37am

After six month or so, leaving PTI he came to know that dharna was General Shjua Pasha's brain child. Very pity Mr. Hashmi you remained part of that brain child of even a retired General for considerable time

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None

Apr 06, 2015 10:39am

Expect a new party in next election i.e. PML (Hashmi)

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M Rafique

Apr 06, 2015 10:42am

@Ahsan Gul ; Perhap may be accommodated now for this revealition

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Tahir Alyana

Apr 06, 2015 10:47am

Javed hashmi has no credibility. Had all these generals been involved in all this, for sure in a country like Pakistan, nawaz shareef had fallen. Safeed Jhoot by Hashmi.

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Joker

Apr 06, 2015 10:51am

Hashmi you are joke now

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salman

Apr 06, 2015 10:56am

He should not discontinue his medication.

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Concerned

Apr 06, 2015 11:08am

@S rehman You have a point, but as said earlier by many, the problem existing in Pakistan is not with one individual whether it be Nawaz sharif or Zardari, it is the system which is our biggest enemy. You take nawaz sharif or zardari out, still things will not change if the system is no overhauled, this is what Imran says and so does Musharraf.

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Iqbal

Apr 06, 2015 11:22am

Meera ji na banain. Acha? Footage ke liye kuch bhi boltay hain?

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Hassan Zaman

Apr 06, 2015 11:22am

you are old now stay at home please don't play your dirty politics here

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s.khan

Apr 06, 2015 11:25am

China treatment seams to be working very well

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No sense

Apr 06, 2015 11:30am

The man seems like a great story teller. He never spoke against the ruling elite, rigging and corruption. There are numerous allegations against him. He should clear his name and retire from politics.

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syed wasim haider

Apr 06, 2015 11:37am

Too late to believe your story.

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zulmai khan

Apr 06, 2015 11:43am

A country run by two parties, one with canon who brought this country into absolute mess economically, morally and religiously since its creation other corrupt party who prospered under party one. If it is true this is a punishable crime and no one is above law. This beautiful country deserves honest God feared selfless rulers a country which must pride itself as an honest and independent from external forces. Pakistan deserves to stand on its principles for which it was created.

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Capt C M Khan

Apr 06, 2015 11:49am

Watching the events unfold Mr Hashmi makes sense. No reason to disagree with him.

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Ali Mansoor

Apr 06, 2015 11:49am

Is this the best that you can think off?

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asgher

Apr 06, 2015 11:53am

Thank you for speaking on the same day imran khan entered parliament. your political moves are no rocket science you know...

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Mohammad afzal

Apr 06, 2015 12:06pm

How retired generals could have helped imran. Seems allegations not true. If workers were told to do something then why that have not happened.

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waqas

Apr 06, 2015 12:09pm

his brain i still of a child.. thts evident

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Viking Star

Apr 06, 2015 12:10pm

Mr. Hashmi, you have lost all credentials. You "were" part of Dharna, you went of for a day and again returned on Dharna truck. What kind of philosophy is yours? People had respect for you but unfortunately the respect has been lost. You switched from PML-N to PTI and all the nation showered praises for you and elected you on PTI ticket, then you switched mood and parted ways with PTI and tried running independently, people of your constituency "rejected" you. Your so called allegations would have some weight had the people voted for you (independently) in place of PTI. But now all the allegations seems to be coming out from a person who has lost his ground.

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SAQ

Apr 06, 2015 12:18pm

@Ahsan Gul ISI is going to deal with him. Lol!

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Akib

Apr 06, 2015 12:18pm

@Mord786 he mentioned this way before.

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Akib

Apr 06, 2015 12:21pm

@S rehman nobody is talking about pmln but the fact that the holier than thou pti is in fact, not as holy as it "tries" to portray itself. I get that the headline irks you but try to stay on topic instead of deflecting.

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spicyguy97

Apr 06, 2015 12:26pm

@Khurram just check out today's dawn, there is an ad for attracting private investment inhydro dams. KPK Govt. doesn't have sufficient resources to build on its own. but it is focusing private investors for tourism ( like part in Nathiagali and Khesgi-Nowshera) and hydropower projects.

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moona

Apr 06, 2015 12:36pm

@Muhammad Even the generals cannot succeed without public support.

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Dr. Sadaf

Apr 06, 2015 12:55pm

Really Mr. Hashmi, vow even then you did not loose the opportunity of posing as a hero and soaking yourself in rain and delivering a speech more than once. If such powerful people were behind it then something would have come out of it. Please take care of your health and leave the matters of the country to other people more capable than you.

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Dr. Sadaf

Apr 06, 2015 01:02pm

Whole concept is hilarious and over dramatized, do not know if one should laugh or feel frustrated.

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shezad

Apr 06, 2015 01:05pm

Javed Hashmi was in PTI for several years. And he was part of the agitation? So why cry now?

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Taimur

Apr 06, 2015 01:15pm

There should be judicial commission to probe all these allegations. If the allegations are correct then PTI shuold be banned else Hashmi should be put in jail.

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Suresh

Apr 06, 2015 01:15pm

@Muhammad, you call it foul, I will call it his love for democracy and commitment to country otherwise there are few individuals who would dare being president of the party that is to rule if the current political set-up collapses. I understand of you as a blind Imran follower:)))

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pakistani

Apr 06, 2015 01:47pm

@S rehman you're dreaming

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Amir Shah

Apr 06, 2015 02:07pm

You were part of that Dharna for long time, what happened, you didn't get your own way with Imran Khan. Stop blaming everyone else for your poor performance.

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Syed Ganga Din

Apr 06, 2015 02:31pm

Shuja Pasha collected his money and is long gone beyond the reach of Pakistan. So why now? You should have announced this when you were standing on top of the container.

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observer

Apr 06, 2015 02:39pm

govt. should constitute JIT against PTI for attacking PTV

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patriot

Apr 06, 2015 03:17pm

@Bhatti always speaks the truth late.

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Saeed

Apr 06, 2015 03:29pm

What a ridiculous charge against a general and a political leader. Javed Hashmi is trying to cultivate political mileage by levelling baseless charges. Imran Khan should by now realise his folly of inducting Javed Hashmi into PTI.

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ailly

Apr 06, 2015 04:42pm

IK very rightly showed the way out to such veteran politician who was becoming darling of the nation. Alas, he is getting on the lowest ebb where there's no light or weight in his allegations....

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Gul Pasha

Apr 06, 2015 04:44pm

No harm in forming another Judicial Commission or at least a JIT to probe the real culprits behind the Dharna Conspiracy and their designs. How long individuals on their personal liking or disliking will keep toying with this country. The country almost plunged into anarchy and hardly returned from the brink of civil war not very different from the current situation in Yemen. We must identify and punish those responsible for creating mayhem in the country when unity and stability was the need of the hour.

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Nizamuddin Ahmad Aali

Apr 06, 2015 05:20pm

This a serous charge. A enquiry commission please.

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Truth

Apr 06, 2015 05:48pm

Javed Hashemi realised on reaching Karachi that he had got into a mess by joining PTI but continued in the same party for another 3 years - apparently what a strange argument in trying to re-enact his political career. Then he continued weeks into the dharna but still he claims his innocence. What type of politics is he trying to do?

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Truth

Apr 06, 2015 05:49pm

@Kamal Pasha. Well said.

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shabut

Apr 06, 2015 05:57pm

“It was only after I had joined the PTI that I realized the mess I had gotten into,” and he still stayed with the Party for so many months and even went on to join the Dharna knowing he had joined a mess. You can not be believed Mr. Hashmi.

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shabut

Apr 06, 2015 06:00pm

The overwhelming majority of the posts have considered Hashmi a liar so it has no credibility whatever you say Mr. Hashmi. Your time is over, you can make whatever money you want to make but you have been labeled as an insane person and nothing else.

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Kamal Pasha.

Apr 06, 2015 06:41pm

@Truth, And out of 140 comments , 95% are against his statement. He will still not keep quite and keep on blaming others for his failure.

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Apr 06, 2015 06:53pm

@Khan-Haqiqi Nothing new we know the story behind NAYA Pakistan , the official support PTI is receiving in Karachi speaks of the plan I could not agree more!

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Apr 06, 2015 06:54pm

@Kamal Pasha. Disagree with you Nothing new we know the story behind NAYA Pakistan , the official support PTI is receiving in Karachi speaks of the plan

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Love it or leave it

Apr 06, 2015 06:55pm

One judicial commission should be formed to probe the allegations leveled by Mirza against MQM and Hashmi against PTI in consideration of a fact that the former one is a death row prisoner n latter is a seriously paralyzed politician.

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M. Saeed Awan

Apr 06, 2015 07:03pm

You are great Hashmi. You saved Pakistan and democracy. Same PTI is back to parliment whom it called unconstitutional. What a joke with nation! and amazingly PTI workers still defending Imran Khan.

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M. Saeed Awan

Apr 06, 2015 07:07pm

@Ahsan Gul He revealed everything and cried over again and again but you PTI walas weren't ready to listen him....even today.

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Sonny Afridi

Apr 06, 2015 07:34pm

Blaming a former DG ISI? Really? Best he could come up with?

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aftab

Apr 06, 2015 07:58pm

any cleaver person can easily see the Umpire finger in PTI Imran Khan. Now the same finger is pushing IK to challenge MQM. In any case, PML N will win from the current situation. if MQM will win in by ellection, MQM will loose and vise versa. So win win situation for PML N. Nawaz sharif Zinda bad. We love you Nawaz.

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MR236

Apr 06, 2015 08:28pm

Did Hashmi object to these instructions or went along for "party sake"? Why did he not quit the party right then and there?

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Nasser

Apr 06, 2015 08:32pm

Javef Hashmi would say that, wouldn't he?

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Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad

Apr 06, 2015 08:44pm

Why didn't he say that when he himself was part of the same so-called Dharna? What a serious joke?

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Last Word

Apr 06, 2015 10:22pm

PTI stands exposed vindicating the allegations that military was behind the Imran led agitation.

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Anwar

Apr 06, 2015 10:48pm

Javed Hashmi very true sir. Ex-service men should not be allowed to participate in politics for at least 10 years.

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IMTIAZ SYED

Apr 06, 2015 11:04pm

Hashmi should have kept the inside information as confidential as he got it i in trust, if ot us true. He has fallen from a position of admirable leader to a lowly revengeful. This is what he has earned as a fruit of all life politics.

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Apr 07, 2015 12:37am

Some one once said that Imran Khan is a great pressure cooker but he is no chef, so he was used as a pressure cooker but was not given the job of the Chef in the kitchen.

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dolphin

Apr 07, 2015 03:37am

Saulat Mirza of Pti:D

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Gp65

Apr 07, 2015 05:23am

@Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad Hashmi saying this 6 months later is no credibility because it is so late. But Saulat Mirza saying somethng 18 years later in lieu of having dea th sentence commuted has all the credibility. Wah!

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Khan

Apr 07, 2015 06:33am

@Honey Badger Very surprised to read you guys who are so sure to deny Hashmi but very eager and desperate to accept the accusations of a death row convict Saulat Mirza. Your hypocracy is at its highest.

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Irfan khan

Apr 07, 2015 06:47am

Some folks don't know when to quit, Mr. Hashmi is a good man but cannot get over that his days in politics are over keeps coming up with bazar stories to get some significane in the mix. More talks less credible we find him. Recommend please retire and let others to continue in the progress of the country.

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Apr 07, 2015 09:58am

@Muhammad They were retired by that time, remember?

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Shakti

Apr 07, 2015 10:52am

Not exactly something that nobody suspected.

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Concerned Pakistani

Apr 07, 2015 11:21am

I believe Hashmi due to his past. His history shows he is a man of principals. Brave man.

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Rahi milla

Apr 07, 2015 11:33am

Javed Hashmi is telling the truth as he has nothing to gain or loose from these disclosures. Another act in the comedy of errors of the PTI antipolitiks. Look how FarhanKVirk is making fake comments with various names against the great Javed Hashmi. Unfortunately in the PTI support base their is more respect for Imran Hashmi than Javed Hashmi sahib.

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@expat

Apr 07, 2015 03:28pm

The retired spymaster has a few other medals up his chest. Failure to detect OBL hiding in Abott Abad (provided they didn't really know). Failure to predict and pre empt high profile attacks on PAF assets resulting multi billion rupee loss to the public exchequer. Failure to protect the people of Pakistan , who were subjected to worse kind of terrorism and many died while many others were crippled. Failure to take action against religious fanatics holed up in and protected by Punjab. Failure to timely retaliate the killing of Pakistani soldiers by US forces. The list of his accomplishments is long and goes on.

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umar hashmi

Apr 07, 2015 04:43pm

A day late and a dollar short.

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thanvi

Apr 07, 2015 06:48pm

JIT to be formed excluding ISI for fact finding, telephone calls etc! Is he telling stories or has he any proof?

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Omar

Apr 07, 2015 07:51pm

Retired Generals cannot create this kind of inertia.PTI had been asking for reform for a very long time.Dharna was the result of PML(N) paying no attention to just demand. Anyone with half a brain will understand how this unfolded.

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Nomani

Apr 07, 2015 08:56pm

Mr.Hashimi is telling the truth.When sharif's govt. filed cases against Pervaze musharraf,these ex. Gens.tried to teach Nawaz a lesson and used IK.when Nawaz came to his senses they left IK as a step mother leaves a blind child in the wood.

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qamar

Apr 08, 2015 04:29pm

it was quite evident by the acts and speeches of PTI Leaders that they want to derail democracy. who was umpire? shame full act by PTI. in-service generals take decision by their own, not on the advice of retired ones. i am sure if Pasha and his aides would have been in power at this crises, PML N Government had gone

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Muzaffar Oklahoma

Apr 08, 2015 10:37pm

I see a lot of conspiracy theorists on this thread.To me Mr Hashmi has no credibility.It does not matter what he says.It has no impact.

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